July 7, 2005

By Special Request for Dave

Our resident ditto-head, Dave, was very indignant about my posting the death map which shows numbers and distribution of the service men and women who drew the last breaths of their too short lives in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Dave, still persisting in living in the land of make-believe where there was any connection whatsoever between the attacks of 9-11 and Sadaam Hussein or Iraq, said I should post a map of the 9-11 deaths. (Guess it's some sort of death contest? If so, I hope we hear from Dave once the American deaths from Bush's folly equals the 9-11 slaughter, though the toll of death from innocent civilians as well as combatants surpassed 9-11 long, long ago.)

So I set about changing the war death map into a 9-11 map. Here you go Dave. And I'll post the original for contrast. Does this make your point? What was your point?





Interactive map available here.

13 Comments:

At 7/08/2005 7:06 AM, Blogger Dave said...

The red dots don't translate. Make a new scaled dot to represent the 500-1000 range. It's a little bit of math to get that right, but I know you can do it. This will come closer to making my point.

 
At 7/08/2005 8:24 AM, Blogger IlliniPundit said...

Wow. I had no idea only three people died in the 9/11 attacks. Why in the world did we get so worked up about it, then?

 
At 7/08/2005 2:12 PM, Blogger A Human Bean said...

Where do you get this stuff. I don't agree with this war, but let us be honest. The proof that Saddam help Al Queda was brought to light long ago. Our media basically overlooked it and failed to adequatly report it, but it is fact.

 
At 7/08/2005 2:50 PM, Blogger QuadCityImages said...

Yes, Bin Laden has always been known for being pleased by half-assed attempts at Islam... oh wait, no he's not. Under Saddam Iraq was hardly even Islamic, which Osama didn't appreciate at all. Not the types that work well together.

 
At 7/08/2005 3:57 PM, Blogger SENOR MF BADASS said...

Bin Laden was known for liking people that want to kill Americans, though. I'm sure that he could get over Saddam being secular for some good old fashioned American killing. Saddam supported terrorism, Bin Laden is a terrorist. I'm not saying those two facts alone are proof that they worked together, but certainly more so than, "I don't think Bin Laden would work with someone who isn't very Islam" is proof that they didn't.

 
At 7/08/2005 5:55 PM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Bean.... you're deluded.

I mean, that's some whacky way to insist that fiction is fact. Just say it came to light, but no one reported it. Yeah.. .right.

The fact remains that GEORGE W. BUSH himself has stated clearly HIMSELF that there was no connection.
What? Is he in on the conspiracy too?

You just CAN NOT let go of that cherished lie that you've clung to to make this war seem not so awful, can you?
Just let it go. It will be painful at first to realize the president has lied and decieved us into sending our people to their deaths, but face it.
Living in a state of denial and insisting on keeping your head firmly planted in the sand will do you no good.
Wake up to the awful truth.

 
At 7/08/2005 5:58 PM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

illinipundit. I'm a bit surprised at you. Clearly by looking at the original map, you can see that the red circles represent a high concentration of dead from that area.

Did you not even look at the link provided?

And actually, the Iraq death map shows where people were from. So a map of those killed on 9-11 should be plotted on a world map, as people from around the world and from all faiths were killed in the WTC disaster.

 
At 7/08/2005 6:03 PM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

That said, I do admit that the red dots in the original represented locations where more than 10 people had died (I think... I'm not looking at the original)
There isn't an appropriate color code to represent the number killed in NYC or DC.

But the fact remains, that it's immoral and sick to argue or justify a misguided and stupid war based on comparing body counts.

It's sick!

The number of men, women, and children killed and maimed by the U.S. efforts in Afgha
nistan and Iraq dwarfs the number of people killed on 9-11 by about a factor of 10 or more.
How much blood is enough?

It's the 21st century and Dave & Co. still want to argue for the most barbaric measure of "success".

 
At 7/08/2005 6:28 PM, Blogger Dave said...

so why did he lie?

 
At 7/09/2005 2:24 AM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Millions of people would love to know Dave... but you think Bush will admit it?

Do some research. Check out the Project for a New American Century where they (Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Cheney, Pearle, et.al.) laid out the plans for invading Iraq way back in the Clinton era.

Read the Bush's former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neil's account of being in attendance at cabinet meetings immediately after 9-11 and hearing Rumsfeld and Cheney set the course for preparing to invade Iraq, even though they had NO evidence Iraq had any connection whatsoever with 9-11.

It's as plain as day that it was in the cards with these bozos since before Bush even considered running!
They looked at 9-11 as their golden opportunity, then set about to, as the Downing St. Memo clearly shows, to "fix" the intelligence to fit their plan, rather than the other way around.

Before you can see, you have to open your eyes. (and your mind.)

 
At 7/09/2005 9:31 AM, Blogger Dave said...

What's your theory on this grand conspiracy?

 
At 7/13/2005 4:10 PM, Blogger Dave said...

You don't have one.

 
At 7/13/2005 7:02 PM, Blogger maybesomeday said...

Oh Dave, and I suppose you want to connect the dots -- to make it all make some sense.

Well Dave, there are plenty of dots on the map for you to connect now!!

 

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