May 26, 2005

The doctor is: out.

Due to non-blog matters, I haven't been able to devote much time to the site in the past few days (well, none, really) and so haven't dug up any posts. Hope to get back in the saddle soon.

In the meantime, here's a free thread to talk about whatever you wish. Who's going to be the candidates for president in '08? What's Boland's next move? Who's going to challenge Evans? What Dem would be good to succeed him if and when Evans retires?

Comment about anything you'd like.

Have fun.

23 Comments:

At 5/26/2005 3:53 PM, Blogger whispers said...

Everyone will stay put locally - Evans, Boland, Vershore, Jacobs. That's my opinion anyway.
Can't think of anyone who interests me as president as long as we get that Bush out of there.
What I'm really interested in is the UTHS situation with the amount of Vice Principals they have up there. Nobody seems bothered by it. Have you seen what we are paying them and what your school tax is over it.

 
At 5/26/2005 6:05 PM, Blogger Philosophe Forum said...

Sen. Deanna Demuzio would be good to succeed Rep. Lane. She knows her constituents & what's important to them.

 
At 5/26/2005 10:21 PM, Blogger DownLeft said...

Boland will run for Treasurer and probably win.

 
At 5/27/2005 12:35 AM, Blogger Dissenter said...

Boland will never run for treasurer. He will run for Senate, or run for re-election. He will never run for treasurer.

 
At 5/27/2005 6:57 AM, Blogger maybesomeday said...

Anyone heard of the phone poll going around asking about local incumbants and who should move up? There is rumor of this poll bought by someone - but not sure who??

 
At 5/27/2005 8:28 AM, Blogger hud50 said...

I am interested to see how everything will shake out. Besides Verschoore, there is a real possibility that a free-for-all will take place, with people scrambling to move up.

 
At 5/27/2005 12:04 PM, Blogger rope-a-dope said...

Boland will edge Mikey 'Lite' Jacobs in the 2006 Dem primary -

Porter McNeil wins the Dem primary in Boland's district but loses a squeeker to Republican Steve Harring. . .

& Lane doesn't fade away - he just smells that way!

and finally Chris 'Bix' announces that he's really 'the Dope' . . . or at least that he's been smokin it!

 
At 5/27/2005 12:10 PM, Blogger rope-a-dope said...

Philosophe Forum's comment about Demuzio is pretty interesting - the late Vince D. was a magical politician and the name is gold below Springpatch -

BUT - there's just not enough of that kind of territory in the 17th for it to be a realistic expectation in this analysts mind

 
At 5/27/2005 12:26 PM, Blogger diehard said...

I think Mcneil is an appealing candidate. He has something Ahern and Jerry Lak..lack pun intended!
Likeability!!
Something all the money in the world can't buy if you dont have it!

 
At 5/27/2005 12:50 PM, Blogger Miss Manners said...

Quite the feather in your cap Senator MIKE Jacobs! Congrats on getting that river boat relocation through the Senate!

 
At 5/27/2005 12:56 PM, Blogger maybesomeday said...

Comeon folks. I am sick of hearing about Jacobs - talk about something else plueazzzzzzz

He is not the only politician out there working hard - maybe one of the few who got a nice job handed to him without having to actually run for it --but nonetheless - I am gonna wait and see if he can manage to earn the job - with majority vote at the ballot box - until then let's give it a rest.

There are/were plenty of other people more deserving of the posh appointment who would have done just as well if not better at the job. But then not many have such a powerful father.

You are putting me to sleep here with the undeserved pats on the back of a person who has yet to prove he has a good work ethic.

 
At 5/27/2005 2:29 PM, Blogger whispers said...

maybesomeday - let's talk about your favorite then! we all have a favorite here!
denny was my favorite politician of all time.
boland is who's running the poll to see who wants him where.
would you vote for him for rep? would you vote for him for senate?
would you vote for him for treasurer?
he's all over the map.
rope-a-dope - Mike Jacobs' name is not MIKEY. quit wearing your heart on your sleeve. if you are so upset about his appointment, why don't you run.
oh yeah, that's what the poll is for.

 
At 5/27/2005 4:29 PM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Interesting comments. But I see Rope-a-dope is still playing Inspector Clouseau. Not sure who they think I am, but thanks for playing.

For those who really want to know my identity, if they're standing at the corner of 19th st and 12th ave. in Moline at 9:45 p.m. tonight, all will be revealed.

 
At 5/28/2005 7:45 AM, Blogger maybesomeday said...

Hmmm you think Boland bought the poll? He is nuts if he thinks he can compete on the level of a Congressional Race.

Even statewide for him is a stretch - heck even State Senate.

My future prediction--

Here is what will happen if Boland runs against Mike Jacobs for State Senate-- someone else emerges to make it a three way - and the third candidate is funded by Jacobs family on the side - so that it makes it harder for Boland to win. And the Senate leadership funds Jacobs to the hilt. Jacobs hopes the Republicans locally will in turn also help him out like Bob Imler and company - since Mike's been kissing and holding hands with them since his appointment to his "gifted" new job - but he get's disappointed by the Republicans when the chips are down.

Remember the Republicans take care of their own.... so if there is any candidate no matter how bad for State Senate - all the kissing in the world will never get Mike Jacobs any help from the opposite side of the aisle. He can brag about being above it all and liked by all - but in the campaign - Republicans always protect and serve their own even if they made nice with Mike Jacobs earlier - no matter what they may promise.....

 
At 5/28/2005 7:52 AM, Blogger maybesomeday said...

Oh yeah Whispers you asked so- Here's my favorite - I like Pat O'Brien's future as a politician. Pat's worked hard for everything he's ever had - the good old fashioned way --and never had anything handed to him. Plus his public speeches in the face of great difficulty, such as the night he barely lost his Mayoral bid are the best I have ever seen and I have seen many campaign speeches in my long life.

We need more people who are in the game for the right reasons and who can inspire new people to get involved and that's what I have seen O'Brien do for the last 8 years.

We need someone who does not encourage infighting in our Democratic party but inspires people to work together. That's what we need and that's why I like Pat O'Brien so much and hope that he can run again for office soon.

 
At 5/28/2005 10:05 AM, Blogger diehard said...

The sad thing is perhaps O'Brien didn't win because he took a stand against growth just for the sake of growth. A tough position for a politician yet a gutsy one!
Which begs the question do we want politicians with strong convictions about the envoirment, workers rights , womens equality or do we want a malibale person that we can pressure into doing whatever the lobbyist want?
Remember not all lobbyists are bad. Some are down there[D.C. Spprigfield, Des Moines] pushing stuff we might want done.
Only problem is that people like Riverstone, Deere and Company, AMA are already very well represented in our statehouse and national scene!

 
At 5/28/2005 3:26 PM, Blogger latinv said...

Diehard- I do not beleive that Lack or Ahern are deficient in the likeability quotient at all. I have heard Lack speak and act on Lane Evans behalf from Keithsburg, to Morrison to Galesburg, and I can't see how democrats could say he is any less likable than Mr. McNeil. I can buy it slighthy on Ahern, due to the fact that he at least ran once, and took a position on issues-which perhaps may be why he may not be as well liked as the other two; However, overall, none of the three really have any deficienices to erase or make up in regrads to likability. We are lucky to have either of the three in the pipeline, and in regards to Haring being a spolier- forgetaboutit. He has three strikes against him; he comes from somewhere other than RI County- where 70% of the vote comes from; he has staggering debt from the last run, and the demos will support whomever to the hilt in the general.

 
At 5/28/2005 6:27 PM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

A hypothetical here...

Assuming Lack, Ahern, and McNeil all run, would it be better for them all to bash it out in a primary?

If there were some way to avoid this fight, who would be the best concensus candidate? If there could be only one candidate, who should it be?

Who would in the end be the best candidate in the general, and the best performer in office?

 
At 5/29/2005 6:34 AM, Blogger latinv said...

I hope the three young dems do not shoot it out in a primary. Just like a good stock broker who gives advice, he/she must reveal if he owns a stock he is pushing, I did vote for and would vote for again Mr. Ahern. With that said, I have seen Mr. Lack work for Lane for a long time, and Mr. McNeil work for young Mike Jacobs and others, and they both would be better then who we have now for the future of the 71st. They all have strengths, and Mr. Gianulis should encourage force?) them to work together to keep this office blue. Either of the three could work with Vershoore and Jacobs, and it would be good for our area to get back to ALL of our Springfield contingent working together. (By the way, good question dope)

 
At 5/29/2005 8:39 AM, Blogger maybesomeday said...

Latinv - if you are looking for leadership from our County Dem chair - keep looking.

Gianulis is probably trying to figure out a way to appoint someone if Boland vacates his seat so the Chair can continue a lock and control on who holds the local elected seats.

You see then there is no contest by the voters - it's just one person making our choices for us giving us a new "incumbant". Contrary to what some bonehead told me earlier in a post --about how the latest appointment given to the new Senator was actually 35,000 votes? What a joke! I happen to know that the only County in Illinois that requires by law that the elected Precinct committeemen/women have any voting rights in the appointment of a vacant elected position in the General Assembly or Senate process is Cook County.

In RI County and everywhere else, the elected Democratic or Republican County Chair (depends on what party vacates) gets to represent all the voters who cast lots last election in that county and make the decision himself (of course the other Counties weigh in too if involved) and in RI County, even if there are other county chairs involved due to geography - RI is the largest (35,000 votes or so cast - that's probably pretty accurate) and therefore the king of the throne so to speak.

In this instance upcoming in 2006, if Boland does run for Senate or State office, since his current seat is up every 2 years, it will likely be impossible for any appointment to an open seat he vacates with the timing of it all and the fact that Boland does not like Gianulis and does not play well with his Democratic leaders locally. Boland will stay in his seat and then file for the Rep or Senate seat - make his choice what to run for-- and then possibly open it up for a three way in a primary-- so the voters may actually get to decide this one - how refreshing!!

 
At 5/31/2005 11:24 AM, Blogger PrairieStateDem said...

If Boland decides to persue higher office Porter is the obvious choice out of the 3 mentioned candidates for the democratic nomination.

1.) Porter has the best shot to win the general. The 71st is a marginally Republican district and the person who can appeal to the dem areas( hampton twnship, south moline) and the outlying areas like Morrison and Fulton is Porter.

2.) Porter has the experience to get it done in Springfield. His service on Dem staff and lobbying for local issues is a requirment that Lack and Ahern dont even come close to meeting.

3.) Porter knows how to mount a sucessful campaign. Serving in leadership capacity for races from the statehouse to the whitehouse doesnt happen by accident. Porter is a great campaigner, very media savy and he will be able to raise the money to make it happen.

 
At 5/31/2005 3:36 PM, Blogger diehard said...

I agree Prarie State! lets get someone to represent us in Sprinfiels that doesnt make us feel ickey!! The our legislative 'the 2 reps and senator' contengent as well as the people that could be on the ballot in Bolands race against McNeil all give me the creeps! and I'm a Democrat!!!

 
At 5/31/2005 5:34 PM, Blogger latinv said...

The 71st is not marginally republican; not even close. But it is marginally conservative. That's why Lack would have a tough time, but doubtful either of the three would lose the general. The 70/30 split of my fathers time has certainly dwindled, but even today the district sits at least 55/45 Democrat- even with the addition of portions of Carroll County, and the loss of democratic sections of RI County.(mainly in the Floricente neighborhood of Moline and border of RI) My money is still on Ahern; at least I saw him working at the Colona Parade and at the Hero Street Memorial,which still means a lot to third generation hispanics like myself to see politicians at.

 

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