June 1, 2008

What hath Hillary wrought?

A Hillary supporter typifies their feelings...

During today's meeting of the Democratic Rules Committee meeting, a peek at what it was like to be in the hotel bar with Clinton supporters here.

With friends like Hillary, who needs enemies?

And isn't it possible that women like Harriet would be just as furious no matter by how large a margin Hillary lost the nomination and no matter who had beaten her?

If Hillary had been beaten more soundly by say, John Edwards, would the reaction be just as vitriolic and emotional? Would they still be convinced that some shadowy forces had screwed Hillary because she's female?

This is just what Obama and the Dems need.... millions of white, older women so pissed off that they'd rather pull their own eyes out than vote for Obama, and who are so angry that they'd actually vote for McCain out of pure spite and vengeance.


At 6/01/2008 12:55 AM, Blogger tiz said...

I am so upset the DNC is holding back my candidate, Mike Gravel. Being a white male is akin being a second class citizen anymore! Why are they throwing Mike Gravel down the toilet? I'm voting for McCain now I guess.

I love the Geri Ferraro thing about Obama only being viable because he's black (that this lovely lady parroted). Being black was a huge advantage to Obama here in Iowa, let me tell you. Same goes for Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, Oregon, Washington State, Wisconsin and Missouri. So many black people in those states.

My message these "women-scorned:" How about next time hitching the collective ambition of your gender to someone who didn't have to hitch hers to her husband? Or better yet, support someone next time who knows how to run a campaign. This really was hers to lose and they seriously dropped the ball. Oh and if you vote for McCain I hope you're ready to send your grandchildren to Iraq.

At 6/01/2008 9:55 AM, Blogger Benton Harbor said...

Dope, this clip strikes me as proving what I've thought all along... that many women support Hillary ONLY because Hillary is a woman. Forget the fact that Clinton and Obama are fairly close in their Democratic ideals. If Harriet were a true Democrat, she would still get behind her party's candidate when the general election came around.

Harriet hit the nail on the head and showed her true colors when she noted that "she has been a second class citizen" and somehow equates Hillary with removing that tag from her.

Yes, Harriet is just one voice (and a pretty shrill one at that). But I get the feeling that many more are just like her. To say that they would vote for the other party's candidate "just to get even" shows the mentality of many of today's voters. But then, this is the "silly season."

At 6/01/2008 1:47 PM, Anonymous No Nonsense said...


I have listened to Hillary's supporters lately and I have an alarming hypothesis. Her middle- aged, wing-nut supporter’s need for her to win the nomination and then Presidency, is not because they believed she won fair and square; it’s to prove a point to all the men in their lives that doubted their own personal abilities. It appears as if they have morphed into pseudo- Hillarys so they can make statements like: “See I can do this even though I am a woman” or “Look Daddy, look what I can do”. With the current state of the world today, our presidential election is not the time to resolve an inferiority complex!

Hilary Rosen’s “Why do we stick with her?” on Huffington post, states “Hillary represent every woman who has ever made a suggestion at a board meeting only to be met with silence and then her male counterpart makes the same suggestion later only to be met with praise.” (Sidenote: That has happened to me in the past but Hillary doesn’t represent fixing that moment in my life. I was able to see the situation for what it was “I had a bastard for a boss”)

Their inability to recognize that her campaign lacked proper planning and execution, engage in financial recklessness as well as she hiring an incompetent staff is the downfall of her campaign. Hillary’s gender is not the reason why she made so many mistakes, she made mistakes because of bad decisions; there were men who also competed in the primary that dropped out because the campaign was not going as expected. I wish her supporters would realize that an error in judgment is NOT based on gender.


At 6/02/2008 10:07 AM, Blogger Saul said...

If Hillary had taken a stand against the war early on, everything might be different today. Instead, she not only voted for the war in October 2002, but during the early part of the primary season she positioned herself as being the most hawkish of all of the Democratic candidates. Obama's record of opposition to the war was what allowed him to attract the crucial groundswell of support he needed. Opposition to the war was without question the most important issue for the young activists who volunteered for his campaign in huge numbers in Iowa and elsewhere.

I have absolutely no sympathy for Hillary. She opportunistically chose to go along with the pro-war drive of the Bush camp and helped push us into the biggest disaster of our generation. She doesn't even have the decency that Edwards has shown to admit that voting for the war was a mistake.

At 6/03/2008 1:49 AM, Blogger tiz said...

Let me throw this out there: I think she may have been able to eek out a victory in 2004. But, in line with Saul's point, I think she (and unfortunately more than a few other dems) saw the value in letting Bush run the place into the ground for 4 more years.


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