September 12, 2007

Jacobs holds Chicago fundraiser

Thought I'd pass along info from an invite to a fundraiser event for Sen. Mike Jacobs that I recieved via e-mail.

It's a "cocktail reception" held at Carmines (?) on Rush Street in Chicago this coming Friday the 14th for two hours beginning at 5:30 p.m.

You can be a sponsor by kicking in $2000, $500, $250, or $150. The least you can pay to get in is $75 for an individual ticket.

Official hosts (who presumably have kicked in a G or two) are listed as:

Ira Alper(stage workers union official), Laura Hunter (the only likely link I could find showed a Laura Hunter of Chicago donating to a Republican candidate for U.S. Senate. It may or may not be the same person), Staffing Services Assoc. of IL, BlueStar Energy Services, John Kelly, TempsNow/Scott Polen, Ted Brunsvold, son of Joel Brusvold and mentioned as a possible replacement for Lane Evans when he announced his retirement, Julie Mirostaw a lobbyist for Dan Shomon, Inc. and apparently the organizer of this event, Deb & Larry Toppert, local business owners and loyal Dem supporters, and their daughter Wes, lobbyist John Corrigan, who also apparently has worked for, or still works for Dan Shomon Pfizer/Bryon Wornson, Anthony Degrado III, president of the United Steelworkers Local 17 Decorators Union out of Chicago, Dan Shomon, of his own political PR and fundraising consultant business (who also has worked for...Pfizer), Jerry Tritsis, listed on campaign finance documents as a self-employed accountant from Northbrook, IL who has been a regular donor to Dem candidates, including giving $2000 to the Kerry campaign in '04, Jeff Dixon, (possibly Information Technology director for local business machine and consultant company R.K. Dixon) Mike Smith, Wyeth/Ann Williams, Bill Filan, yet another Chicago lobbyist with many clients, including... Pfizer, (scroll down the document) Bill Filan is Speaker Mike Madigan's former issues staff director, and his brother John is Blagojevitch's top budget aide. Bill was also involved in a real estate deal with a shady Blagojevich donor, who, as the Sun-Times put it, "In a matter of months, a $60,000-plus campaign contributor to Gov. Blagojevich went from defaulting on a mortgage to heading up a state agency that annually doles out $3 billion in loans."

and lastly Larry Suffredin, a gaming lobbyist.

RSVP to Julie Mirostaw at 312-762-7492

See all your average Joes there!

Interesting sponsor's list though, don't you think?

We have a couple of reps from Big Pharma, both giants Pfizer (the world's largest pharma corp, annual revenue of $48.4 billion), and Wyeth (makers of Advil and Robitussin, annual revenue of $20.4 Billion), (don't worry about Jacobs supporting any health care initiatives. Pharma has about 3 lobbyists for every congressman in D.C., and apparently Springfield.)

A rep from a temp firm and one from the temp services association. (The enterprising folks who profit by hiring workers, often to do work formerly done by union labor, at a fraction of the pay, usually with little or no benefits, and takes a cut of their wages, you know the drill. They drive down wages, cheapen labor, use them like expendible cattle, and make a tidy profit to boot.)

And a slew of lobbyists representing large corporate insterests, and a couple union guys.

Obviously, you know a person by the company he keeps, or in this case, the companies that pay them. Next time you hear Jacobs saying how he's working for the average guy, how could you doubt it?

Please make Checks Payable to: Friends of Mike Jacobs P.O. Box 95 Hampton, IL 61256

56 Comments:

At 9/12/2007 7:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jacobs can not raise money from his own constituents that live in the Senate district?

 
At 9/12/2007 7:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who is Mike Jacobs trying to kid. He pretends like he's a dem, calls his opponent a GOP, yet he's the one taking all the money from Republicans.

Good news is that we have a choice again. Rumler got my vote last time, and will this time as well.

Dope, did you see that Rumler's got some youtube links on his website? Looks like he might finally be heeding your request for more information. Who says blogs don't matter?

 
At 9/12/2007 7:51 PM, Anonymous QC Examiner said...

I thought Deb Toppert was a Republican. At least she was when she ran against Boland. And what's the deal with Wes Toppert? She's just the Toppert's 20-something daughter, so what's her claim to fame?

You're right---it's kinda bizarre.

 
At 9/12/2007 9:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for the info Dope. I live in Chicago and I went to high School with him. He is doing a great job for you guys back home. I will let you know about the event. He has good events. I saw Jude Cole sing at his event last year in the Quad Cities. It was great. Is he having any entertainment that you know of?

 
At 9/12/2007 10:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is this the same Dan Shomon that ran Barack Obama's campaign for United States Senate?

 
At 9/13/2007 1:23 AM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Let's see... first of all, I should point out that taking money from lobbyist's (and those outside your district) isn't exactly rare, and justification could be argued that politicians often vote on matters that affect many people outside their districts. (the truth is that they pay the politicians who vote on matters directly affecting their bottom line so they'll support measures which increase their already massive profits, shield them from liability, allow them to pollute, secure huge state contracts, etc. This shouldn't be news to anyone, and unfortunately, is pretty much the rule rather than the exception.)

But one can certainly make a case that it's not a "necessary evil" or positive thing and reject it, as many candidates, including Obama, have done.

To the (dubious sounding) commenter asking about entertainment, I would imagine you already know, as you tout other particulars. There was no entertainment mentioned in the announcement, but I'm sure your question will soon get a response from someone who will know, especially if it's someone they want to boast about.

As to lobbying/PR/media consultancy firm owner Shomon, an Obama campaign is on his firm's list of former clients, though I'm not sure you could say he "ran" it.

And if it was Obama' campaign against the certifiably insane wingnut Alan Keyes, then I'm not sure it's a great accomplishment. You would have had to work very hard to lose that one.

 
At 9/13/2007 7:34 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If I am not mistaken, Jeff Dixon's father is former Illinois Secretary of State and long-time United State Senator Allen J. Dixon?

 
At 9/13/2007 8:20 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was at Jacobs fundraiser in Moline and it was a wonderful event with lots of people from the district.

 
At 9/13/2007 8:41 AM, Anonymous Bill Silvis said...

Anon 9/12/2007 7:43 PM. Are you kidding me? Rumler lobbies for an organization that is against the minnimum wage for the poorest Americans, against healthcare for children, and against worker safty. Jacobs took money from this same organization and voted against this organization on these issues.
The difference is that you do not have to vote the way that contributors want you to, you do have to do what your employer, who you choose to work for, says however .

Rumler chose this organization. Jacobs didn't force him to choose it.
Rumler will have to live with it.

 
At 9/13/2007 8:48 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Too bad you didn't inform your readers about Jacobs' local event a couple of weeks ago. A couple hundred people, great food, entertainment... lots of Average Joes and Janes!

 
At 9/13/2007 9:18 AM, Anonymous Miss M said...

Will you be posting all fundraising events for all local politicians and hopefuls on this blog? Will you write an article on each one, who will be there, who is hosting, etc? I hope you do! I know there is one for Hare this weekend, with Rumler's old boss from DC being a speaker I believe. Jerry Lack has one coming up, with Lane Evans as special guest. Do you know of more? These are the only Democrat events I have heard of that are coming up.

 
At 9/13/2007 12:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

According to the Washington Post, Dan Shomon not only RAN Barack's campaigns, but is also "Obama's longest serving political adviser!"

"Dan Shomon was formerly Political Director for Obama 2010, the political arm for U.S. Senator Barack Obama, from 2003 to the end of 2006. Shomon served as Political Director during Obama’s Democratic landslide primary and general election wins in 2004. During the primary and general election, Shomon was in charge of operations and strategy in 97 (out of 102) Illinois counties in the March primary, including media relations, field operations, voter registration, message development, volunteer recruitment and election-day activities in those counties. He has also played a major role in media response, fund-raising, campaign management and message development in the U.S. Senate campaign. As Obama’s longest serving campaign adviser and strategist, Shomon managed Obama’s unsuccessful campaign for U.S. Congress in the 2000 Democratic primary. Shomon served for more than six years as Obama’s primary press spokesman and chief of staff from 1997 to late 2003. Shomon began his affiliation with Obama in 1996 and was his staff person in the State Senate beginning in February 1997."

For the Dope to color

 
At 9/13/2007 8:36 PM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Anon 12:00.

You're getting better, but next time you cut and paste a huge block of information, how about at least MENTIONING the source? That would be helpful.

Miss M,

I've announced dozens of events for Dem candiates and politicians here over the years. I finally decided to only announce those events which the campaign or candidate actually informed me of.

Obviously I can't announce events that I'm not aware are even planned.

And it's true. I didn't write up anything about the Jacobs fundraiser held a week or two ago.

I'm not confortable promoting an event to benefit a Democrat, which continues to be held annually at the establishment owned by a former Republican candidate for the senate, Mike Whalen.

Something about handing profit to an active Republican is troubling, especially when it was held during Whalen's campaign last year, and in light that there's certainly other locations available.

 
At 9/13/2007 9:38 PM, Blogger tiz said...

I thought I'd add that Whalen's still filing papers with the FEC - I think a rematch with Braley is eminent. I doubt that will keep Jacobs from holding fund raisers at Johnny's though.

Given how Mike feels about where I grew up (let me quote):

“I wouldn’t want it in my back yard, either,” he added. “But would I purchase property where I knew this could happen? No.”
(http://www.qctimes.com/articles/2005/12/02/news/local/doc438fefada521c313983184.txt)

I guess it shouldn't surprise me that one of the "sponsors" listed openly made fun of people like myself who were less fortunate than her (and did so as late in life as college - a few years ago).

Oh well. Mr. Jacobs will need all of the cash he can get.

 
At 9/13/2007 9:42 PM, Blogger tiz said...

Dammit.. I make a mistake in a comment almost 2 years ago and repeat when re-citing the link.. Here's the right link for the Jacobs quote.

 
At 9/13/2007 10:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you know the affiliation of Carmines in Chicago.
I also would like to know if you feel comfortable promoting a candidate that is working for an organization that is a republican organization. This is the same organization that Mark Baker ran against Lane Evans from.
This is worse than if Rumler was the chef at Johnny's Italian Steakhouse.

 
At 9/13/2007 11:29 PM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Anon 10:14

If any of that were the facts, I don't know as I'd be comfortable "promoting" such a candidate.

But that's a moot point as I'm not "promoting" any candidate.

 
At 9/14/2007 6:41 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

FACT 1:

Mark Baker was regional director for the Illinois Chamber of Commerce, when he ran against Congressman Lane Evans.

- Washington Post
February 27, 1998, Page A01

Paul Rumler was regional director for the Illinois Chamber of Commerce, when he ran against Senator Mike Jacobs.

- QC Times
May 11, 2007

FACT 2: Baker and Rumler both ran campaigns against Democrats and lost.

FACT 3: Baker and Rumler's both got paid by a business organization that opposes increasing the minimum wage and worker safety programs.

FACT 4: Sheeeshhhhh!

 
At 9/14/2007 8:16 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Paul Rumler and the chamber of comerce are all for the pork plant. He stated so last election. I have noticed that Rumler has kept this view and others on almost everything secret. He has a web site with no views on the important issues such a womens right to choose, gay rights, and illegal immagrants. Why would he not use this site to let us know where he stands?

 
At 9/14/2007 9:06 AM, Blogger tiz said...

Anon 10:14:

Would you rather Rumler be unemployed? Didn't your guy make an issue of that a few years ago?

Not all of us can depend on our daddies to hook us up jobs throughout our lives.

 
At 9/14/2007 9:33 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You wrote : " I finally decided to only announce those events which the campaign or candidate actually informed me of."

I am asking you directly, did Mr. Jacobs invite you to his Chicago shindig that you have decided to write this article?

 
At 9/14/2007 10:12 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some folks build houses in flood plains and complain when they get wet. Other build in commercial areas and protest when they open the mini-mart. Still others build houses right next door to an industrial area and then complain when they build factories.

How about you Dope, would you build your house in a COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, or RESIDENTIAL area?

 
At 9/14/2007 3:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was also at the Jacobs fundraiser in Moline. Wow, what a crowd. I couldn't believe the people. Good food, great people, a good time had by all. I was so shocked to see Mr.Beydler (the columnist) there. He is a big supporter I hear! I

 
At 9/14/2007 4:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do I sense sarcasm Dope????

And you aren't promoting a candidate!

HMMMMMMMM!

 
At 9/14/2007 6:09 PM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Anon,

Nice work twisting things, as usual.

You really make yourself look dumb by boldly stating simple facts that no one, including myself, ever doubted. You left out, FACT: WATER IS WET

I wasn't disputing any of those things, though you were happy to throw them in there as part of your campaign. (this is why I can't stand the stuff you post. You're not serious, and you post campaign crap even when it has nothing to do with the subject of a post.)

But I noticed you did ignore the only "FACT" you actually mentioned in the comment I was responding to, and that's when you branded the Chamber of Commerce a Republican organization.

Now, it's safe to assume it's membership is majority Republican, but don't you think that's a little strong? Especially with Mike Jacobs and other Dems conspicuously trying to work with them?

And finally, WE GET IT.

You can stop whipipng the dead horse of Rumler working for the Chamber, which in turn opposed the minimum wage hike.

This doesn't prove anything much, and until Rumler himself offers a view on the subject, it's anyone's guess as to where he stands.

 
At 9/14/2007 6:26 PM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Anon 3:44

I'm sure Beydler may be a "big supporter" of certain things, but somehow I doubt that it's the Jacobs campaign.

Anon 4:54

Sarcasm? Moi??!!

I do get your sarcastic suggestion that I actually AM promoting a candidate.

I offer you the same challenge again. Show me where I'm promoting anyone.

You obviously are inferring that I'm "promoting" Rumler, but if I were, don't you think I'd have posted something that actually promotes him?

 
At 9/15/2007 1:31 AM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Anon 9:33.
Yes. By e-mail addressed to this blog, but it makes no difference whatsoever how I was informed.

Anon 10:12

Comment is unanswerable.
You state facts not in evidence, as the "law talking guys" say, then ask a rhetorical question from me, even though you're responding to the comment of someone else.

Doesn't make sense.

 
At 9/15/2007 1:34 AM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

To the person who's been sending in comments defending the folks on this list of sponsors, please figure out what weird character format you're using an resend if you could.

They appear on my end as comments full of HTML code and bizarre characters, and the links to publish them are all broken, making me unable to post them.

I'd tried to copy and paste your first one, but I don't see it now. The second one was about Wes Toppert's impressive credentials.

I'll try to get it up somehow or other.

 
At 9/15/2007 1:39 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon with the messed up computer wrote on 9/10 at 12:10 a.m.:


I attended the Mike Jacobs' event at Carmine's tonight in Chicago. His
supporters helped him raise $15,000!!! And, it was great to see
constituents from the 36th District there to support him.
Congratulations to Senator Jacobs! He=E2=80=99s doing a great job!

 
At 9/15/2007 1:42 AM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

To Anon with the messed up email from 12:10 a.m.
Hey, SUPER FANTASTIC!!!!!!! Great! Alright! Super!!!!!!!!

Glad you got to at least get out the money amount, since that's what you're most fixated on, and apparently want to boast about.

Not what you're doing for the district, not your ideas and philosophy, but how much cash you're raking in.

SUPER! Great! FAntastic!!!!!!!

Voters just swoon when they hear a politician talk about all the big bucks they're getting from lobbyists in Chicago.

I know that this is the way insiders play the game. (at least many). What you're trying to do is impress other potential supporters by boasting about how much cash you bring in.

It's also the equivelent of political chest thumping. By boasting about the amount of money raised, it's hoped that it will intimidate any opponents and discourage their potential donors.

This strange and rather ugly practice is based on the idea that in politics, money is everything and trumps the candidate, their ideas, what they stand for or whether they don't stand for anything, etc.

To political operatives and apparently the Jacobs campaign, it's all about the money. They know that the small group of insiders, the money players, all stand around watching the money race. They don't care about anything else. Just who's got the most money.

And since money attracts more money, that explains their bizarre compulsion to boast about how much money they're raising.

To the average person, it's like they're boasting about how they're being bought off by the highest bidder, and to a certain extent, that's the case.

But apparently to some politicians, it's far more important to let the donor class know that they're bringing in a lot of dough, and they're oblivious to how crass and craven it appears.

I'm old-fashioned. I know it takes money to win, but when money replaces EVERYTHING else, then that's not a good sign, and it's bad for the public.

 
At 9/15/2007 1:44 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon with the messed up email wrote on 9-15 at 12:40 a.m.:

QC Examiner maybe you should do some fact checking before asking what
is Wes Toppert=E2=80=99s claim to fame. She was the first female from the Q=
uad
Cities Rowing Association to be award a NCAA Division I scholarship to
the University of Southern California. After graduation from USC with
degrees in Social Sciences and Law & Public Policy, she went to work
for Baxter Healthcare Corporation in Deerfield, IL. I=E2=80=99m not sure if
you=E2=80=99ve seen picture of Toppert=E2=80=99s daughter, but she is SMOKI=
N=E2=80=99 HOT (she
has a myspace page but unfortunately it is set to private)=E2=80=A6.In 2005=
she
signed as a model with the Ford Modeling Agency in Chicago. She
continues to do part-time modeling gigs, but she is also a Lobbyist for
Dan Shomon, Inc (one of the most politically connected firms in IL).
Last I knew she was in business school working on her M.B.A. Toppert=E2=80=
=99s
daughter is intelligent and extremely professional, and most
importantly she is down-to-earth. She was in town to help with the
elections last November and she was a tremendous help! She is proud
that she was born and raised in upper Rock Island County. It=E2=80=99s a sh=
ame
she lives in Chicago because she would be a great person to represent
our area in Springfield or at the federal level because of her
progressive views.I would have to say that Toppert=E2=80=99s daughter has d=
one
quite well for herself considering that she graduated from Riverdale
High School in Port Bryon.

 
At 9/15/2007 1:48 AM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Those are obviously very impressive credentials for Ms. Toppert indeed.

But interesting parting shot there. Apparently you have a very dim view of Riverdale High School and feel the school's graduates rarely rise above a career involving wearing a paper hat.

 
At 9/15/2007 4:37 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

if you are touting you raised just 15K for a fundraiser in Chicago, you woefully underperperformed. I hope you meant to say 150K, but even then, how are you going to meet Blagojevich's millions, tens of millions?

 
At 9/15/2007 3:16 PM, Anonymous QC Examiner said...

To the anonymous Wes Toppert cheerleader:

Where would I "fact check" to get the information you provided? I did a quick google search and found no where near the comprehensive information you provided. Are you her boyfriend? Her Daddy? You sure know a lot about her.

Most of this stuff I already knew---about growing up in Upper RICO, Riverdale, rowing, USC, etc.

I didn't know about her being a Ford Model and "SMOKIN HOT" though I'll hazard a guess that our criteria for "SMOKIN HOT" are not the same.

The most interesting thing to me about Wes Toppert is the fact that even though she's a lobbyist, you consider her to "be a great person to represent our area in Springfield or at the federal level."

That pretty much says it all about local Democrat politics.

 
At 9/15/2007 7:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jacobs raises $1500 in the District and $15,000 outside the District?

Pretty obvious who is he going to represent in Springfield.

Maybe that is why the people living here get no benefit from their current Senator.

Jacobs doing a great job??????????
Time for change.

 
At 9/15/2007 10:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Inside Dope 9/14/2007 6:09 PM, you say that it's safe to assume it's membership of the chamber is majority Republican. The problem is Dope not their members are republican but that they are against important Democratic views such as minnimum wage increase, Health care for children, and worker safty. Are these issues that you think are important for the people that need it most. As for Jacobs working with the chamber, of course Jacobs works with the chamber on important issues such as rail service to Chicago. There are other issues where Mike Jacobs worked against and passed important legislation against the chamber on issues such as minnimum wage increase, healthcare for children, and workers safty. Where do you stand on the issues of increasing the minnimum wage, healthcare for children, and workers safty Dope? Are you with Jacobs or Rumler and the chamber? I hope that you denounce Mr. Rumler and the chamber on these important Democratic issues.

 
At 9/15/2007 11:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Rumler works for the Chamber, which in turn opposed the minimum wage hike?"

-- theinsidedope
09/15/07

 
At 9/16/2007 5:18 AM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Are we to assume that our Sen. Jacobs has visions of the governor's mansion dancing in his head?

Surely that can't be true.

 
At 9/16/2007 8:40 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sen. Mike Jacobs doesn't run scared, he's running for REELECTION!

Rumler can saddle up next to Rick Baker and the Chamber of Commerce, the recently indicted Teamsters Union, or his hero Blago, but none of losers are going to help him beat a popular Demovrat like Jacobs. A couple points, Blago will never be elected to again, and Rummler will never be elected to anything!

 
At 9/16/2007 9:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now that you mention it Dope, if Jacobs were to be the Governor we could be sure that we would not be having the problems that we are with this Governor. Jacobs would be a welcome breath of experienced change that Illinois could use.

 
At 9/16/2007 9:03 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dope are you for raising the minnimum wage, healthcare for children, and workers safty that Jacobs voted for? Or are you against these democratic tennants that Paul Rumler's chamber lobbied against in Springfield?

That is the question.

 
At 9/16/2007 1:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

According to records from the State Board of Elections, on June 30, 2007, Blago only had 221,439.00 left in his campaign account. So if Rumler thinks Blago is going to bail him out, he should think again.

 
At 9/17/2007 4:11 AM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Anon 10:14 and 11:42,
I know it took you a lot of time and thought to try to concoct those two comments. You did try to make sense, and I'll give you partial credit for that at least.

But you're still trying to make a connection that doesn't exist.

First of all, you state all these issues that the Chamber is supposedly against.

Secondly, you ask ME whether I support these issues. What does that matter? I'll explain.

Rumler WORKED for the Chamber. He didn't set their policies, nor did he determine what side of any given issue they'd come down on.

Yet you are trying mightily to suggest that Rumler is somehow single-handedly responsible for the Chamber taking the wrong side on a few issues.

That's simply false. Get it?

Now you can fault Rumler for even taking a position with a group which held such positions. That would be legit.

But you can't try to say that the fact he did some work for them PROVES somehow that he's against minimum wage, etc. That's where the bullshit comes in. It's called false insinuation.

I'm sure you don't appreciate it if anyone does that to you. So try to avoid it towards others.

That you are a sucker for the illogical connection is proved by your comment which quotes me.

I said that Rumler worked for the Chamber, and the Chamber opposed raising the minimum wage.

That doesn't prove ANYTHING, other than what it says.

It doesn't prove that RUMLER opposed raising the minimum wage, does it? The only facts are that the Chamber opposed it, Rumler worked for them. If anyone doesn't like that alone, then that's their right.

Where does Rumler stand on minimum wage or the other issues you mention? I have no clue. Maybe there's something on his web site, though I haven't checked.

But stop the campaign to try to insinuate where Rumler stands on such matters until you KNOW where he stands.

I'm sure you'd be raising holy hell if anyone tried to say that Jacobs had such and such a position based only on a hunch.

 
At 9/17/2007 4:14 AM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Anon 8:40.

You're bizarre opening statement is revealing.

I had to go back and read this entire thread, and I must admit, I can't find a work from anyone saying that Jacobs was "running scared".

Is that what you're afraid he's doing and that's why you took it upon yourself to defend him from a charge no one ever made?

Strange indeed.

As is your saying that Blagojevich is Rumler's "hero". Such bullshit. Do you write this stuff as soon as you fall in the door from the bar?
Your spelling and thought processes seem to say yes.

 
At 9/17/2007 4:17 AM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Anon 9:00

Your peculiar views were ok until you got to that last line, "Jacobs would be a welcome breath of experienced change that Illinois could use."

That made me lose my lunch.

What a CROCK!

"Experienced"? WTF???!!! Are you nuts?

For that matter, "change"??
If you like things done like they've been done since the 30's, and you think that represents "change", then go ahead on.

 
At 9/17/2007 4:23 AM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Anon 9:03 (all of these dimwits are likely the same person, who it is I leave up to the reader)

This one made me smile a sad little smile of pity.

You worked so hard to come up with this goofy challenge, asking me where I stand on minimum wage, worker safety, etc. when it's pretty obvious what my opinion of them would be.

You thought that would somehow suggest that if I supported them, then I couldn't possibly support Rumler.

That's sad. It's a nice try, and it was the best you could come up with, so you used it twice.

But as I've tried to explain, I don't know WHAT the hell Rumler thinks about these issues, anymore than apparently you do.

I don't choose to fall for the trap of assuming that just because he held a position for a time with the Chamber of Commerce, that he therefore is lockstep in agreement with every policy position they hold or ever will hold.

That would be stupid.

And I am all for supporting Democratic "tennants." Especially those who live in crummy apartments. Yeesh.

 
At 9/17/2007 4:26 AM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Anon 1:08.

Hey, being able to carry on a imaginary debate with an imaginary person is ok, I guess. But try not to do it here.

I know you're just bursting to get your little spin points out, and the best way you can come up with, when no one is talking about it and there's no legitimate way to bring it up, is to simply pretend someone said something, then provide your bullshit in your answer to the imaginary commenter.

In this case, you wanted people to think that Rumler somehow is tied to Blagojevich and is depending on him to "bail him out".

Of course, no one every mentioned anything remotely related to that, but that doesn't stop you.

Please enlighten us about this major tie between Rumler and Blago.

 
At 9/17/2007 7:20 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dope what is your view on Rumler choosing to lobby for a lobbiest group that lobbies against such democratic tennants as the minnimum wage, healthcare for children, and against workers safty? Try and answer not run arouynd it. Take a stance big guy.

How did you feel when Mark Baker ran against Lane Evans from the very spot that Rumler is running from?
Answers would be nice.

 
At 9/18/2007 5:34 AM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

OK Jughead,
I'll answer this AGAIN.. maybe if you read reeeal slow, you'll pick up on it.

First of all, it doesn't matter AT ALL what my position is on these issues. Doesn't matter a bit.

I'm not running for anything, and my opinon or view on these issues has nothing to do with whatever the hell you're trying to beat to death here.

I've already said what my views were anyway, where were you? Do you read anything before deciding to comment?

First of all, I'm sure Rumler didn't lobby against any "tennants", you boob, let alone Democratic ones. (look it up)

Secondly, I've already explained this to you about five times. What don't you get?

I don't know what Rumler's views are on those issues, and any others, for that matter.

I'm just arguing that you can't tar him with the brush you're so frantically and maniacally trying to tar him with.

Until Rumler states HIS views on those issues, then we don't know what they are, and the simple fact that he worked for the Chamber does NOT prove that he supports or is against any of those issues.

PLEASE read my prior comments on this issue and if you can't figure them out, then just give it up.

I've already gone throught this more times than I want.

This thread is dead anyway.

 
At 9/18/2007 4:15 PM, Anonymous Sue RI said...

I have read this infromation and I know where Jacobs stands on issues. I do not know anything about Rumler. I have visited his web site and it is devoid of anything that has any positions.
Why is he so secretive of his views. Are they foreign to those of the district. His choice to lobby for the republicans leads me to think that he has bad views.

 
At 9/18/2007 4:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This site is nothing but a Jacobs advertisment. It is all you or your readers talk about. Phil Hare has a fundraiser and you do not even mention it. Boland and Lack are running and you do not even mention it. This is bad for the people of the district. Give us other peoples news.

 
At 9/18/2007 9:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Thread is throught?
Hey you may want to start a new thread that talks about Jacobs and the senate passing a Capital budget with the money that WIU and the chamber have been wanting. Now we will have to see if our Representatives can help carry the water in the house.

 
At 9/21/2007 8:40 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

People and bloggers say that they want to talk issues. The Senate passes a Capital Budget and all we want to talk about is fundraisers and silly hot button issues of the bloggers. Could you explain your reasons for this behavior.

 
At 9/21/2007 2:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, Mike Jacobs has done a poor job disguising himself before on this blog, but he might as well have his notarized signature on these posts. Too bad it's the only signature Jacobs has been able to secure these days. Poor Pat Verschoore (sp?), he's trying to get sig's for Mikey's petition, but nobody will sign them.

 
At 9/22/2007 12:06 AM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Ach! I live for threads like these. (not).

Let's see, Anon 8:40.

I suggest Capitol Fax for comprehensive coverage of the goings on in Springfield, number one.

Secondly, if you'd like to contribute, please send along an e-mail (or comment if you must) and fill us in on what you know about the difficult birth of the state's capital budget, what it contains, what it doesn't, etc.

Unfortunately, I haven't been following it at all closely, and so can't discuss it in any real way until I know more.

In the meantime, the basic idea of this thing (blog) is that readers will contribute, not simply bitch from afar.

By all means share your thoughts, or better yet, your knowledge of what the results of the budget agreement are.

Anyone else that can contribute something other than cheap pats on their own back are welcome to share info, and if there's enough, it can warrent its own thread.

Again, appologies, but I just haven't paid any attention to the state budget process, though I am interested in what impact the results had on our area.

I'd like to know if the vaunted WIU Moline riverfront project got any more funding, and what else either got funding or failed to do so.

 
At 9/22/2007 12:07 AM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Anon 2:46.

That's hearsay, obviously, unless you can provide a credible source.

 

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