June 10, 2006

71st District Congressional Race Discussion

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50 Comments:

At 6/26/2006 9:22 PM, Blogger Randy Thomas said...

Why are you afraid to put your hero Mike Boland's name on the sign. Haring won the republican nomination for the 71st district. What part of that don't you understand. We all know where your allegiance stands. I would like to point out that Boland is the Representative who sent the letter urging the DECO for the agreement between Triumph hog slaughter house and the State of Illinois. He has gotten a pass on your site for all of his missteps. Mikey Boland was written in the Capital Fax by rich Miller as unliked and untrustworthy by his peers. This race is the number one seat targeted by the State Republican party and you say that you are not sure who the candidates are. Are you from another country or are you protecting Mikey from Steve Haring. Comming off a dismal effort in yet another bid for another office shows that Haring is sitting in the catbird seat. Get a clue and stop protecting Mikey from Steve Haring the candidate with the morals and the views of the people. Haring is a man that wants to be your 71st district State Representative.

 
At 6/27/2006 1:49 PM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Randy,
I must be on another planet. I'm not as passionate about this race as you are, I hope you'll forgive me.

And your fantasies about my motives, etc. are dead wrong, just FYI.

I put up the link to Boland's district just to keep you happy. I guess I failed.

I'm not protecting Boland. If you stopped to think, simply not having a discussion thread link, and then chosing not to put his name on the graphic hardly constitutes some sort of attempt to "protect" Boland. That's simply silly. Sorry.

The fact is that you'd written in touting some "Harrington" guy. I'd never heard of him. I figured it must be a third candidate. I didn't catch that you yourself didn't even know the name of the candidate you were talking about. I assume now that you meant "Haring" and not "Harrington"?

I wasn't going to put up a button with three or more candidate names on it. But now I guess that I've figured out what the hell you were trying to say, and that "Harrington" isn't a new candidate, that I could change it to Boland/Haring.

Anything to make you happy and stop your crazy speculation about what I'm doing and why.

People involved in local politics are by far the most paranoid people I've ever met in my life. I've seen this so far exclusively from Dems, but you seem to show that it's not exclusive to one party.

But I guess state politics is simply an area which is infested with bizarre fears, beliefs, and enemies behind every tree. You could make yourself nuts trying to divine everyone's motives and why they're doing something as simple as adding a link button on a blog, and apparently you have.

The fact is, as amazing as it may seem, is that I haven't paid any attention at all to Boland's race. (nor have I paid much attention to Vershoore's Jacobs' or Hare's in the past few weeks)

Stunning, I'm sure, but them's the facts. I've been trying to concern myself with more important things, as I'm sure the time will come soon enough where I'll have to wade back into the fever swamp of these races.

If I go back now change the other buttons to just their district numbers would you start breathing normally? Or would that set off another round of speculation about who I'm "protecting" etc.?

If I spend another hour changing the button to "Boland/Haring" would that cool you off?

As I'm sure you know, I'm here to make sure you're pleased.

You just threw me a curve with that "Harrington" thing.

 
At 6/27/2006 4:37 PM, Blogger Randy Thomas said...

Yes! Either way it would be fine with me. If it takes you an hour to change the headers though you need assistance. I am a republican that voted for Haring and that was the first I saw his name. I do know that my republican friends that know more than I on politics say this is their chance. I made a mistake on Haring's name and I appologise to you and him. I won't forget the name as I will be sending him a check. I would vote for anyone but Mikey Boland. I know that he has wanted every job but the one that he has. Get ready for a hard fought battle in the 71st.

Vote Haring!

 
At 6/28/2006 1:21 PM, Blogger Bill Jones said...

I have been a Boland supporter for some time. I am very troubled by him leading the charge to bring the processing plant to East Moline. He sat on the fence and then when we needed him most he stuck a dagger in our back. I will not vote for Boland in his bid for re-election. I will not vote Republican either. I will sit this one out.

 
At 6/30/2006 12:37 PM, Blogger Moline Bill said...

Rep. Mike Boland has been a great legisture for the 71st district for some time now. He has with the help of Sen.Jacobs opened the Thompson prison. They are taking applications as we speak. I am particularily happy with his resolve in getting the funding for the Triumph Plant in East Moline. This shows his dedication to the people of the district. He will take some heat for spearheading this project from the people out there, But the silent majority is for the plant. The vocal minority has to support Boland come November. Thanks Boland for getting this project past silvis and the residents out there.
Great job Mike!

 
At 6/30/2006 4:31 PM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Of course, that's pure opinion that the majority favors the hog plant, as is the notion that anyone, minority or not, "has to support" Boland or anyone else for that matter.

Thanks for your opinions.

 
At 7/01/2006 4:17 PM, Blogger JUST-THE-FACTS said...

I wish everyone would tell the truth.

It was Todd Sieben and Jim Sacia that pushed for the opening of the Thompson prison. They do not even represent the district, but they care because the have voters close by who could work there.

As for our elected Democrats Mike Boland and Mike Jacobs, they should receive an automatic failure for trying to take credit for someone elses work. I am giving Jacobs too much credit in that, I should say appointed official. Jacobs is the worst of the bunch and I hope he loses.

 
At 7/04/2006 11:24 PM, Blogger Randy Thomas said...

You are right. Mike Boland had nothing to do with Thompson prison. He had everything top do with the Hog Plant. He must go.

 
At 7/04/2006 11:28 PM, Blogger Moline Bill said...

Are you high just the favcts. Where does your info come from. This prison used to be Seiben's district but nothing ever cam of it until Jacobs and Boland got on the case. These men have been working to open the prison and succeeded. You have bad facts. Go Boland.

 
At 7/05/2006 12:18 PM, Blogger Craig said...

The hog plant will bring many needed jobs to the QC. As for Boland though he really needs to step aside. His years of Jacob bashing has really hurt him politicly. Boland will win re-election because Harring has no chance. Then next primary the 71st needs to replace Boland in a primary. Maybe Ahern would do a better job.

 
At 7/05/2006 2:14 PM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Craig,
I must note that, speaking strictly about thousands of comments left here and on other blogs, it's bizarre to hear someone condemning Boland for "jacobs-bashing".

The ratio of "jacobs-bashing" from anyone compared to "boland-bashing" comments is without exageraion about 500 to 1 on the Boland bashing side of the ledger.

Jacobs partisans if not Jacobs himself have left literally dozens upon dozens of the most vicious slurs and attacks here over the past year, more than I could count.

I could easily find several examples in minutes.

But I could count the number of times anyone supporting Boland has commented with anything negative about Jacobs on one hand.

Just sayin.

 
At 7/05/2006 2:23 PM, Blogger Craig said...

During the last election he told a reporter in the Springfield area that he supported Jacobs in the primary. Then later says he did not support him at all in a press confrence. Why did he change his mind?

Maybe not so much as Jacobs-bashing as just being a sore loser. How long ago did he run against Denny. The man needs to get over it.

 
At 7/05/2006 9:51 PM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Craig,
I don't think anyone has the luxury of deciding to blast one side or the other in this long and damaging feud.

Boland endorsed Denny's Republican opponent a long time ago, and the Jacobs have done everything within their power and then some to sabotage and demean Boland since.

Now exactly where this all started and who did what to who since is beyond my interest and at this point meaningless. But both sides have their hands dirty in the whole thing, not just one party.

 
At 7/06/2006 11:35 AM, Blogger del said...

Think you are having a problem with this blog. This is a test.

 
At 7/06/2006 11:39 AM, Blogger del said...

I had trouble leaving a comment a little earlier and don't know but think it was lost.

What I said was that I saw Mike Jacobs and Boland together the other day. They were talking and laughing like old friends. I would assume that they have buried the hatchet. They surely didn't look like men who hate each other.

The mess between Denny and Boland started during their campaign against each other. It started before Boland endorsed the republican against Denny.

 
At 7/06/2006 4:36 PM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Del,
Sorry for the difficulty with commenting. Blogger is tempermental sometimes, but it usually comes to it's senses eventually.

And I agree. I'm sure there's no outward animosity between Jacobs and Boland, and luckily, I think both men are smart enough to know that an overt feud is detrimental to both of them.

But the level of vitriol, disrespect and bitter smears and personal attacks on Boland expressed in so many previous comments left here would indicate that there is still an almost frighteningly strong ill-will still lingering beneath the surface, at least on the Jacobs side, which has been far, far more vocal in their bashing Boland, often with no provocation whatsoever.

The fact remains that comments from those assumed to be Boland supporters knocking Jacobs were so few as to be almost non-existent.

Boland did make it clear that he wasn't exactly supporting Jacobs during the primary, though it wasn't accompanied by vocal and shrill attacks against Jacobs, at least not here or on other blogs.

 
At 7/06/2006 4:47 PM, Blogger JG Here said...

For the last 20 years Boland has crossed the street if he saw a Jacobs coming down his side of the walk. Glad he is putting it behind him. The Jacobs are no saints but glad to hear someone acknowlege it's been both sides that have been against each other.

 
At 7/08/2006 2:03 AM, Blogger Scott said...

I agree that feud is from both sides of the fence. I believe that the time is coming when it will be my generation's turn to take the reigns. Maybe that will alleviate some of the fighting.

 
At 7/08/2006 3:31 AM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Scott,
Assuming by your generation you mean the current 20 somethings, I certainly look forward to the day when a new crop influences the local organization.

Of course Machiavelli was right when he observed that those with power never give it up, it must be taken.

The nepotism train can run for a long, long time. But I'm sure that new faces, and new directions will inevitably influence the direction of the party in the future.

And I for one look forward to that day, if for nothing else, simply for a change from the same old thing that's been essentially unchanged for decades.

I think both the times and the situation is ripe for young Dems to truly step forward and start learning the ropes.

 
At 7/08/2006 3:35 AM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Scott,
Assuming by your generation you mean the current 20 somethings, I certainly look forward to the day when a new crop influences the local organization.

Of course Machiavelli was right when he observed that those with power never give it up, it must be taken.

The nepotism train can run for a long, long time. But I'm sure that new faces, new ideas, and new votes may finally break the stale system which all too often concentrates and preserves power within a very small and insular group.

Fresh voices and personalities will inevitably influence the direction of the party in the future.

I think both the time and the situation is ripe for young Dems to make a reall effort to step forward and start learning the ropes, taking positions and working for the party, and hopefully break the hidebound status quo.

 
At 7/08/2006 1:33 PM, Blogger Scott said...

I do mean the 20 somethings (we are actually of age now). If you look at any political function, you will see that we are gaining in numbers. It just takes time to gain the allies needed in the party.

 
At 7/11/2006 10:27 PM, Blogger Betty Smithers said...

Boland's time has come to an end. He has wanted to many positions for to many years. His vote on the pig plant will put an end to his carreer. I have met Mr. Haring and he seems like a nice young energetic man. Mr. Haring is the right man at the right time in the right place.

 
At 7/11/2006 10:30 PM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Betty, any relation to Waylon, by any chance? Just curious.

 
At 7/14/2006 10:44 PM, Blogger Craig said...

Did Mike even vote on the pig plant?

Betty must be from silvis the only town that didn't like jobs.

 
At 7/14/2006 11:29 PM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Craig, you're a bit too glib on this one. There were, of course, numerous and leglitimate reasons to oppose locating the vast Triumph plant near Barstow in a flood plain next to a river.

It's not just about that magic word that fogs men's minds, and which is thrown out like some sort of magic bullet justification for anything, "Jobs".

 
At 7/21/2006 10:06 PM, Blogger demgorilla said...

Grapevine is starting to say this race could be a very close one. Boland's congressional candidacy has hurt him with the voters, and with the Governor's problems and problems with the rest of the ticket this race could be very/close.

 
At 8/02/2006 10:23 AM, Blogger Craig said...

THis race will not be anywhere near close. I say 70-30.

 
At 8/03/2006 9:22 AM, Blogger Joe said...

Oh Craig, your ignorance is very telling; just keep your eyes open because this race is the only thing going on the Illinois side of the river. As the staff starts to role in for Boland and Haring and the rhetoric starts to heat up you too will understand that Boland has a fight on his hands. Remember Boland only won in 04 by 9 points with a base that is classified as swing. I can’t wait to watch this!

 
At 8/11/2006 1:16 PM, Blogger Barby Hunter said...

I was a supporter of Mr. Bolands untill he wrote the tide turning letter to the DECO which canceled the Silvis blockage of the Hog Slaughter House and brought the money soaking, smell from hell, pollutting facility to our back yards.

I have noticed that Maddigan has sent his best and brightest to run the Boland campaign. this is a sure sign of trouble.

These facts along with the fact that Boland wants to run for every political position except for the one he has. Coupled with the pathetic performance that he showed in the congressional appointment process, getting only his own votes and one others

This is a sign that we can get rid of the Hog Plant loving Representative.

 
At 8/18/2006 10:46 PM, Blogger Randy Thomas said...

Mike Bolands stance on the Viet Nam war seems to be catching up with him. I hear people talking about this and have seen it on The Passing Parade. It could hurt Boland as it hurt Carry during his presidential election bid.

Haring will prevail!

 
At 8/19/2006 6:09 PM, Blogger joe said...

What stance on the Vietnam War?

 
At 8/31/2006 11:32 AM, Blogger rope-a-dope said...

Hey dope . . . you better clean "the stables" because the shit piling up in here is beginning to stink!

I'm seeing more & more misinformation from the desperate . . . so it appears that "silliness season" (my name for campaign season) has begun.

Boland's stance on Vietman?

Mike Boland supported the war, because he had a brother serving in the armed services. Boland had brothers who served in both the Korean and Vietnam conflicts.

 
At 9/19/2006 11:37 PM, Blogger Craig said...

OK, first of all Randy...

What the hell does Vietnam have anything to do with this?

Second, John KERRY ran for president, the least you could do is leanr how to spell the man's name. You seem real ejewmacated (yes that is sarcastic) when you say that.

Boland's campiagn staff if awful pushy and it seems as though they think they are on top of the world because they are from the IDP.
I like Mike a lot but his campaign staff may prove to be a detreiment. I still say he pulls this off by 3 or 4 points.

 
At 9/23/2006 10:19 AM, Blogger Huntooner said...

I found the following over on John Beydler's blog and thought readers here deserved to have a listen too.

http://nfbi.blogspot.com/2006/04/state-representative-mike-boland.html is the link.

The description on the Passing Parade said "there's a mp3 of Mike giving an obviously improvised speech", and Beydler said, "Vintage Boland".

I agree that it's a nice glimpse of what Boland's like, that sounds like the Mike Boland I know!

 
At 9/29/2006 5:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

after the way the republicans have handled harings second run at boland, i will vote for mike boland harings not the change we need if cross and the natinoal republicans campaigns are any indication.

 
At 10/09/2006 11:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Craig, A few words of advice ...

1. If you are not supporting any Republicans in these Mid-Term elections and consider yourself a Democrat then stop bashing Democratic candidates and their staff.

2. Conduct Primary election discussions during a Primary election year.

4. Stop talking and listen more.

 
At 10/15/2006 6:48 PM, Blogger Craig said...

Anon,
I have not bashed any candidates... Mike Boland is a great man. Whenever I have visited Springfield he has been willing to talk to me, likewise back here at home. Mike is terrific, and I am proud to be represented by him.

As for the staff, they are three people from IDP, Mike Madigan's staff. The only real experience I have had with all of them was at Drinking Liberally in September. At this meeting they continued to talk about why Mike's race was so important and that Phil Hare's race was unimportant. I do not agree with this, I understand they are doing a job, but I feel it is them that are bashing a candidate. I wish I did have more time to help out Mike, but I feel that taking back the Congress of the United States is more important than retaining a seat in the state house. They don't feel this way, and they had no problem voicing it, and honestly it offended me and I am sure many others at the event.

Of course I like Mike. I hope he kills Haring, I wish the House Dems would buy him some ads to help fight back against the house republicans, but I don't think they will. I don't know what the primary stuff was about, because Mike ran unopposed,a nd Madigan's staff didn't show up until July. I am sorry annoynomus if you are one of the staffers for Mike, and I offended you, but I felt offended when you say things like Hare's race doesn't matter.

 
At 10/16/2006 1:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am not a staffer, and your still not listening.

I know for a fact that Madigan/Boland's staff care about Hare's race.

One more piece of advice, don't assume.

 
At 10/16/2006 8:48 PM, Blogger nicodemus said...

The "bipartisan" teachers union, the IEA did not recommend incumbent Mike Boland as they did in the past. However, they did not endorse Mr. Haring either.

Go to www.ieanea.org and go to Legislative and click on IPACE recommendations. IPACE is the political arm of the IEA and...ahem, they "recommend" not "endorse" candidates.

I don't see the 71st district listed! They snubbed Mike. He is not only an incumbent, but a former teacher for crying out loud!

What is also significant about this is who the IEA did recommend: A. lots of Democrats who don't have a snowball's chance and B. Some Republicans who are total troglodites.

Now what's up with that? Sure, Mike is more of an AFT guy and sure, he never liked the IEA, but in the past they could at least deal with each other. What happened this time? He must have really pissed them off.

 
At 10/19/2006 2:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The IEA remebers that Boland quit their union and worked as a SCAB for five years. Taking every hard fought gain they earned, but never paying a single due!

That's the type of thing it is hard for union memebrs to get over.

As well, Boland voted to raid the Teacher Pension Funds.

That may explain why teachers that know Boland seem to be against him.

 
At 10/19/2006 4:34 PM, Blogger Mike Huntoon said...

You know what's wrong with the "boland scab" story? - It's not the whole truth!

As nicodemus already pointed out, Mike's closer to the Illinois Federation of Teachers (IFT or AFT) than the Illinois Education Association (IEA).

The story I heard is that Mike Boland worked to bring a stronger and more active teacher's union into the school where he taught!

It's both sad and pathetic that now some try to twist that against him to call him a scab!

The truth is out there!

 
At 10/19/2006 8:12 PM, Blogger nicodemus said...

I guess what surprised me about the IEA's non-endorsement was not that they didn't like Boland, (I knew that) but I guess I thought that they had buried the hatchet.

Mike's hatred of the IEA goes back to well before he was a state rep. He talked to me about it lots of times. It has to do with 2 things basically:

1. They backed Denny Jacobs over him for State Senate in 1986. I don't blame him. Mike was a teacher and for the union to turn their back on him, well I would be pissed too. There was bad blood between him and Dan Miller, etc.

2. Mike Boland and Speaker Madigan himself have a problem with the IEA's "bipartisan strategy". They like to jump in bed with Republicans like Jim Thompson & George Ryan. Yes, the IEA likes to be pragmatic and this strategy has worked to some extent too, but not without consequences- It alienated Madigan. So no wonder we have some rather anti-teacher legislation this past few years.

Regarding the AFT. Well, they are more partisan and will endorse any Democrat with a pulse. For example, the AFT just endorsed Blagojevich after he raided the teachers pension, with the blessings of Speaker Madigan.
(Did someone say Boland supported this??)

This AFT Strategy is a new approach too. It goes something like this: "Teachers will enthusiastically support someone who steals their pension money".

HOOOO-RAY!!"

 
At 10/20/2006 8:41 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is always polotics and Madigan with this guy. He forgoes the Union because they backed his opponent way back. And now Mike Madigan the man backing his campaign doesn't like them because they are bipartisan. This shows that he is run by Madigan. This is bad way to do business.

 
At 10/22/2006 2:14 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon,

Care to explain why being supported by the Speaker of the House is "a bad way to do business"

I'm sure we'd all like to hear.

 
At 10/23/2006 9:39 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The difference of being supported and being bought are the question here. The speaker has given Boland hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years. This is a problem for our area.

 
At 10/23/2006 4:39 PM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Anon 9:39

You say this is "a problem for our area".

One question: Why?

 
At 10/23/2006 5:04 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is a problem that Boland is bought by the speaker because he will have to do what the Chicago leader says for him to do. This is why Boland has been the lapdog of Chicago. He has passed 15 bills in 11 years out of 230 bills introduced, From the D/A Sun. October 22nd. He can't pass a bill to help his area but I am sure that Boland has voted for much of what the speaker has wanted for Chicago. Boland spends our hard earned money for Chicago.
This is what I am talking about.

 
At 10/23/2006 8:55 PM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

I humbly suggest that's a bunch of campaign B.S.

You have no clue what bills Boland passed or that they only benefit Chicago.

You're entire premise is pulled out of thin air.

It might be a bit more serious if it was at least backed up with facts.

 
At 10/24/2006 7:10 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are a FEAK, Dope! You really remind me of an ignorant mope that creates his own reality.

 
At 10/24/2006 7:28 AM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

I must admit, I've never been accused of being a "FEAK" before. I'm not sure if I should be outraged or not.

It is kind of funny that because I expect someone to back up their smears with fact that I'm now "creating my own reality".

So, buttmunch, what's the reality I'm missing here. You don't say.

 

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