August 18, 2006

Wonder if the campaign bus horn plays "Dixie"?

They should at least get their stories straight.
Allen, who is positioning himself for a possible run for president in 2008, said the name was "just made up" and that he had no idea that macaca is a genus of monkeys including macaques. The name also could be spelled Makaka, which is a city in South Africa.
It's been reported that the term is also a derrogatory French-Tunisian term for blacks or dark skinned people. Allen's mother is French-Tunisian.
On Monday, Allen spokesman Dick Wadhams said the name "Macaca" was a variation of "Mohawk," the nickname Allen campaign staffers gave Sidarth for his partially cropped haircut. Allen, however, said Tuesday that he made up the name himself.

Allen has been accused of racial insensitivity before. He wore a Confederate flag pin in his high school yearbook photo, used to keep a Confederate flag in his living room, a noose in his law office and a picture of Confederate troops in his governor's office, but has said he has grown since then.

Click here to listen to Allen's campaign bus.

And can you really take anything a guy named "Dick Wadhams" says seriously? Is that his porn name or his real name? Must have had a fun adolescence with everyone dropping the last syllable. That's the sort of thing that could trigger the thinly veiled bigotry and urge to blame "others" that attracts so many to the Republican party.

I think I would have gone by Richard, just the same.


At 8/18/2006 11:46 AM, Blogger Socialist Christian Hippie said...

There was a wonderful joke about this on The Daily Show. Ending with the phrase...Mepeeepee. Racism has been a part of the Republican agenda for ages. Subtly or Overtly. Now, it simply masks itself as classism (poor people are poor because they suck). Every now and then, though, like Mel Gibson when he's had a few, the truth comes through. Not that ALL republicans are racist, but that most racists are republicans.

At 8/19/2006 9:45 AM, Blogger nicodemus said...

ALL republicans are racist, but that most racists are republicans

>>> Not true. For over a century, it was the racist Southern Democrats who opposed and defeated all Civil Rights Laws, even Anti-Lynching Laws. You heard me: the Democrats. It was the Republican Party that freed the slaves and gave the Blacks voting rights and citizenship, assmiliating them into society.

You must have been sleeping in American History 101.

At 8/19/2006 11:47 AM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

People used to sacrifice virgins to the gods too. What's your freaking point?

The fact that southern Dems used to be racist creeps proves... what again?

The statement you think you refuted is still absolutely true. Not all Republicans are racist, but nearly all racists are Republican.

Including yourself, evidently.

Just how much longer are you going to trot out that lame and completely irrelevant fact that the south used to be Democratic, and racist?

Don't you realize that it proves the point that the Republican party is the party of racists?

Tell me Nico, just what was it that caused all those southern RACIST Democrats to switch parties?

What did the Democratic party do that made those southern racists who defended segregation and lynching leave the party and go to the welcoming arms of the Republican party?

Come on... I want to hear it from you, since you apparently know your history.

At 8/19/2006 2:20 PM, Blogger nicodemus said...

The original post by the other fellow said:
"Racism has been a part of the Republican agenda for ages"

And I said that it hasn't because, as I pointed out, for AGES, it was the Democrats who opposed Civil Rights and anti-lynching bills.

It is hard to answer your question because you can't measure a demographic such as "racist" voters the same way you can "Christian voters" or "Hispanic voters" "Professional Middle-Class", even "Gay Voters" etc etc. Why? Well, you are just going to have a hard time finding someone who will openly categorize themselves as "Racist". It is not objective criteria. When is the last time you saw a bumpersticker that says "I am a racist and I vote" ??

I think most people, (Black or White) have prejudices and preconceived attitudes towards race, usually at subconscious levels and it differs by degree.
It varies from the single female who walking down the street at night sees a Black man walking towards her and she crosses the street to avoid him (out of fear) He might have been a Black professor. Then at the other end of the spectrum you have the person you are referring to: full blown Redneck in rural Georgia who has a Confederate flag who would be more CONSCIOUSLY prejudicial.

To answer the question "Why are people prejudiced?". That would be a long long answer and if I had an easy remedy for it, I would be a millionaire. One simple explanation is that Americans do judge by appearance... although they can deny it all they want.
Another answer is the conditioning process given to us by peers and families as well as the baggage from our own experiences.

The accusation of "Racist" is a name-calling tactic that the Liberal Left frantically resorts to, intended to provoke an indignant reaction. I am not playing that game today, sorry.

As for your other questions, when were the political realignments? Well, generally speaking, the majority of Blacks turned Democratic in the 1930s as part of the New Deal Coaltion. The Democratic Party refused to seat the Mississippi Freedom Democrats in 1964 at their Convention. They embraced the Civil Rights agenda probably 'round 1968. The Deep South started voting Republican with the Reagan Coalition of 1980.

At 8/19/2006 2:35 PM, Blogger nicodemus said...

The other part of your question, why did Southern Democrats turn to the Republican Party in the 1980s up until now?

Reagan and Bush ran on things that would appeal to their values such as anti-communism, pro-defense, pro-Life, pro-gun, and.....(drum roll, please).....anti-welfare...anti-poverty programs, more local control and "state's rights", and being tough on crime !!!

Now did this agenda of the Reagan Republicans have negative ramifications for Blacks? Sure. Did it reinforce prejudices? Yes! That is not a good thing, but I think it is true. We all remember the Willie Horton ad.

I never liked or voted for Reagan because the economy was terrible and for the entire decade I didn't have 2 dimes to rub together. That is a fact. Yes, I voted for Dukakis too. (groan!)

But you didnt have Southern Democrats in the South who sat around saying "Yup, I am a RACIST, the Democrats aren't cutting it for me anymore, I am voting for Reagan". Although the effect was just that, there were more issues than just race.

At 8/19/2006 7:44 PM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

Nice tapdance.

First of all, no one asked why people are predjudiced, but thank for the interesting thoughts on the matter.

Secondly, I find it amusing that you can manage to produce an answer as to why Thurmond and all the other virulent racist southern Dems bolted the party and went to the Republicans while never mentioning the real cause.

You suggest it wasn't until Reagan or because of the New Deal.


It was, as literally everyone who has any notion of recent history is aware, because of the fact that the Democratic party adopted a position of racial equality, PERIOD.

The racists therefore went where they were welcome, the Republican party.

Interesting how you could manage to omit that incredibly obvious fact.

You dance like Barishnikov, I must admit.

You equivocate saying that everyone is predjudiced, etc.

That may be true, but the fact remains that those who are strongly and overtly racist are ALL Republican stalwarts and a very active element within the party.

Republican poltiicians still go and speak to former white surpremacist organizations like the former White Citizens Council.

The pay lip service to confederate whackos who still aren't over the Civil War, and others who would love nothing better than to go back to the Jim Crow days.

As Trent Lott famously said, he felt that if Strom Thurmond would have won when he ran for the presidency on a strict segregation forever platform, as Trent put it, "the country would have been a lot better off!"

You can dance and shuck and jive all you want Nico, but you can't deny the fact that the Republican party is the party of racists, either overt or otherwise.

Are there predjudiced people in the Democratic party? Most certainly. But does the Democratic party strictly uphold racial equality as one of their basic values? Absolutely.

Not so for the Republicans.

Bush is the first president in history to have refused to even address the NAACP, which he did for 5 years until finally showing up this year.

Everyone knows who the racist party is, including blacks, who support Bush at the rate of around 3%.

They're not stupid.

I can't believe you'd actually try to deny that it's a fact that not all Republicans are racists, but nearly all racists are Republican.

At 8/19/2006 10:51 PM, Blogger Tacky said...

I think some racists don't vote. just how many racists are Democrats is difficult to determine. So the statement that nearly all racists are Republicans, should probably read. "Nearly all racist Republicans vote."
Joe Lieberman recently has been pointing out that Jesse Jackson and Rev. Sharpton are backing Lamont. Is he pandering to racist Republicans,Democrats and Indeopendent racists? Of course, the non voting racists ( such as those in the Aryan Nation,KKK and other similar organizations) may decide to vote for someone who meets their standards by pointing out Lieberman's candidate is favored by African Americans and therefore is not worthy of votes.
In this 21st century it is a shame that we Americans must still discuss rascism in our country. May the new leaders be blessed with peace, understnding and compassion for all humans on this planet.

At 8/19/2006 11:13 PM, Blogger nicodemus said...

I was at a political science conference this summer where they discussed the issue of what are the differences between Democrats and Republicans? or Libs and Conservatives. The consensus was core order of importance Republicans put 1. Freedom 2. Equality and Democrats put 1. Equality 2. Freedom. I'll see if I can dig that up in my notes.

I did not think anyone took party platforms very seriously because they are so watered down usually. To your credit, I do know that when it comes to selecting delegates, the DNC is obsessive about affirmative action quotas and inclusion: they need so many women as delegates, so many Blacks, so many Latinos, so many gay disabled Asians, etc etc. That change came in 1972. And since then, with Democratic Convention the rules are a tug of war between the machine and regular folks.

With Republicans, it is nice and simple. You can choose whoever the hell you want for delegate.
(I just want someone who can get petition names) For our McCain slate in 2000 all 4 of us were Caucasian men. And the RNC at large mirrors that. I won't deny that their conventions lack diversity. Although I think they need to keep reaching out to Asians and Sikhs, etc.I believe that and Topinka believes that. Others might say that but not be as serious in practice.

At 8/20/2006 7:09 PM, Blogger The Inside Dope said...

A description of the difference between the parties I heard recently is that, in general, the Democats value people more highly while the Republicans value property.

Seems to be a valid observation.

At 8/21/2006 6:59 AM, Blogger maybesomeday said...

Well said Dope!


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