Evans endorses Hare as replacement
NewsChannel 8 has learned that retiring Congressman Lane Evans says he wants to see Phil Hare takes his place on the November ballot.Unbelievable
Hare is currently Evans' district office representative in Moline.
Rock Island County Democratic Committeeman Don Johnston says he heard the news just about an hour ago and says the process to pick a replacement needs some refining.
Evans announced his retirement earlier this week because he isn't able to do his job and campaign while dealing with Parkinson's Disease.
Hare has been part of Evans office since his first term in office in 1982.
posted by The Inside Dope @ 3/30/2006
44 comments
44 Comments:
Mark Schweibert is not friend of eitther Lane or Phil. I am grateful Lane picked someone who knows how to tangle with the insiders. Lane has peed off a lot of people. But if things go right, it will be up to the precinct committeemen to cast the final vote. Not all of them can be bought off by John G and Don J.
What is so "unebelievable" about Lane Evans picking his best friend to replace him?
When I think of Phil Hare, the word "politician" does not spring to mind. Operative? Yes, tough campaigner, yes. Savvy, yes, that too. But politician? Not so much.
YoungDem, leaving aside your other opinions, I have to object to your use of the "guy you'd like to have a beer with" theory of great politicians.
For one thing, ever since they painted George W. Bush with that brush, a guy who makes Paris Hilton look underpriviledged, that particular meme has made my stomach turn.
I DON'T WANT a high level leader to be like the idiot who sits next to me at a bar!!!!
I don't CARE if I could sit and have a beer with him.
I'd rather that he had a fine intellect and took care of himself and was happy enough that he never had any need to waste time warming a barstool somewhere. (not that yours truly hasn't done so a time or thousand. I'm certainly not coming out against taking a large hunk of your time on earth and income and spending them in some saloon, if that's your thing.)
But the notion that a president, or even a U.S. Representitive should be considered preferable if he's sort of like Bill down the bar just strikes me as dumb.
(and I know you're not saying exactly that... but.)
They sold dimwits on the notion that Bush was "just as dimwitted as you" essentially, and not like those fancy-pants know-it-all's Kerry and Gore. Why, they're just like those smart guys you went to school with who were successful and you've hated them every since.
What an effective, but utterly ridiculous psychological ploy. Intelligence, the ability to grasp nuance and complexity, having vision, and a wide and comprehensive knowledge of both history, science, and policy are BAD, BAD, BAD!!!
Being a boob who you could yuk it up with at the Legion is GOOD!!
That's simply among one of the most amazing, and catastrophic, mind games ever perpetrated on the American voter, and the hair on my neck stands up whenever I hear it repeated.
Dumb good, smart bad.
You can be smart... but not too smart. Long as you're not so smart that we can't sit and talk about the mundane crap that preoccupies our lives.
Hey, being in touch with the average citizen is great. So is being aware of the true hardships of so many who are all but invisible in our society.
But chances are that if you're truly smart, you'll know much more about these sorts of people than if you're not.
I give you George W. Bush... the "guy you'd like to have a beer with", and also as clueless and elite a schmuck as ever stumbled his way through an Ivy League college on a legacy scholarship.
It's just stunning.
If I want to have a beer with someone, I have a few people that I think are just excellent for that. No offense to them, but I sure the hell wouldn't want them being my representitive, much less the leader of the free world.
Phil Hare was the architect of Lane's aggregious campaign finance violations. He may have committed numerous additional violations just trying to pay off the $180,000 in fines. Look at the disclosures, several contributions are listed which exceeded the contribution limits and they were personally solicited by Phil and he did not refund them as required by law. Look for yourself, the Republicans will hit him so hard with this issue he will not be able to hold the seat. Phil needs to withdraw from the nomination process for the good of the party and for his own good.
I realize that YoungDem... as I say, I know you weren't suggesting what I did in my argument.
It's just that the mere mention of "a guy you'd like to have a beer with" gets me nuts for the reasons I laid out.
Your point is well taken.
Hare is no Lane Evans.
Please explain the harm of expressing views and opinions in a public forum?
Is there anything revealed here which isn't known anyway?
And why not hash things out when a position this important is at stake? Are we all supposed to sit silent and wait for someone to tell us how to think and who to support?
Obviously everyone will have their detractors, if only those who are competing for the same position or office.
I guess I fail to see how this is so detremental to anything, other than upsetting the major players in the party because it implies dissention in the ranks.
I'd wait until it really matters, like once Evans' replacement is actually appointed/elected before calling for Democrats to "see no evil, hear no evil, and speak no evil".
Congratulations on your appointment Phil. You deserve it.
Um... no one's been appointed.
Phil Hare?
What will he be able to bring, that Lane didn't? And for that matter what did Lane Bring? Honestly, what were Lane's accomplishments, other than being very good at answering constituent’s small concerns? If that's all we want, Phil seems to be pretty good at it.
But if we want someone to help the 17th, protect jobs at the Arsenal, bring dollars to the district, and basically be a strong advocate then we need someone more than Lane, and certainly someone more than Phil.
Small concerns Anon 8:43? Are you kidding me? As a past intern for Lane's office, I believe I would understand that these aren't just little problems people face everyday. For some it's their life, and the staff at Lane's office work hard to help out the constiuents of the 17th District. Don't knock it before you try it because obviously you don't know what you are talking about.
The FEC problem was just as much John Gianulis' fault as anybody's. It's a non-issue. Phil is a great choice and Lane would not have endorsed him if he did not trust him and feel that he would be an excellent advocate for the people of the 17th District. Lane doesn't do anything because someone tells him to. He obviously did this because he wanted to. Phil is articulate, personable, and a great friend of labor and veterans. He would make a great advocate for us in Washington.
You guys are smoking weed if you think Hare can win this. As previously mentioned, he's no Lane. The Rs are going to stuff Zinga's purse full of cash. Phil has pissed off enough people in his own party and the Ds will be split or not vote for him if he gets on the ticket. NOW is the time to get someone without baggage or it will be Congressman Zinga. That IS a scary thought!
Schweibert's problems with labor are taking a serious toll on his chances. Boland may emerge as Rock Island Counties strongest contender.
Word is that the Democrat Party leaders have begun the search for Boland's replacement. Leading candidates include: Dennis Ahern, Porter McNeil, Paul Rumler, John Thodos and Janet Oltman
I THINK THAT BOLAND MAKES THE MOST SENCE FOR THIS POSITION. HE HAS WAITED A LONG TIME TO GET TO THIS POSITION AND HIS HE WOULD MAKE A GOOD COMPLIMENT TO LANES POPULISM.
jckdnls69,
I heard that too. I understand they were then going to place the Jacobs family dog in as state senator.
intheknow says the dem leaders are looking at Thodos for Bolands replacement? First of all I have seen Thodos and heard him speak many times at a lot of demo functions but he is not a democract. I truly believe he is a republican. His pig pushing will hurt him big time. He and Twinky Thom Hart did a lot of sneaking around to get the pork plant off the ground! Mikey Jacobs almost lost the primary. His list of blunders include the pork plant fisco, Rosa Parks, and the train to almost nowhere and the list goes on. The only jobs he ever had were because of his daddie.
Have you happend to read the dispatch article from Glen Poschard.Former Congressman, state senator, and now the president of southern Illinois University exclaiming that rail is the future especially for collage towns.
Yes, yes, yes. It's good to see others pushing for rail. Sen. Mike Jacobs forward idea is getting strong support from Glen Poshard. Wow.
MARK's latest attack on labor is seriosly going to hurt his chances. His position with the Right - 'THE Illinios Municpal League' is the biggest mistake he has made. The AFL-CIO could not endorse a canidate who holds a position in the IML.
anon 19:04 What's all this rambling about "not a democrat" - you sound like the whiney EX Mayor Jo(k)e Moreno and the "Twinky Thom" comment - blah blah blah. No pork fiasco here - Senator Jacobs gets elected. Now go back to crying!
I think that Pat Vershoore and mike Darrow would make a great Vershoore Congress and Darrow appointed Rep. THis would be best for the district.
Jacobs political base isn't going anywhere, but with him to congress.
Benchwarmers love to talk smack, but BIG MIKE JACOBS acts. That is a difference between all the candiates mentioned, and one you can vote for.
Mike Jacobs is the only candiadte with the expereince, education, ability to raise the money and proven ability to win multi-county races. Mike also has the highest Farm Bureau rating in all of Illinois. As well Jacobs is pro-gun. Mike is going to play very well in the rural communites of this District. If Democrats want to give the seat away, elect Phil Hare or Mike Boland as neither man can hold this office. And Schweibert will be a Republican Congressman. We have all watched Schwiebert turn his back on labor over the years! Schweibert will also pay a heavy price for knocking Moline out of the riverboat businees. We need to keep Schweibert as Mayor of Rock ISland, as nobody else is ready to do the job he has done.
I really should be getting paid for such political ads as the above.
We all know who got Mike the labor votes and it wasn't the senator!! He had a lot of help from a more savvy seasoned politician.
Why doesn't this mystery man throw his or her hat in the ring for Congress then.
I'm glad you can only vote once on your polls. Did you see the qconline one they had about replacements for Lane? All candidates were receiving a vote here, a vote there over a couple of days and then overnight two of them got over 400 vote each. WOW! How many times can you vote there? Just like Cook county.
What about former Senator Denny Jacobs -- now those are big shoes!
What about Senator Denny Jacobs - he has the feet for Lane's big shoes!!!
Can BOland be on both State & Fed ballot?
Got a nastey robo call against Boland spending our money and all of it going to Chicago. It sounded like a politicalaction comittee. You people all yelld at jacobs for these calls. You need to get used to them soon. Tney are comming and this was not a candidate sponsored call.
I think you folks don't know Mark Schwiebert. If you know him, he's a very liberal guy politically. Quit name calling before you even have a chance. He's bright, articulate and liberal. Take some time to get to know him before you rush to judgment.
I saw on the news tonight that Mike Jacobs has taken the call of the voter and will run for the 36 Senate seat in November as he was elected to do. Party unity and stability to an unstable situation.
I agree with the above comments about Mark Schwiebert. I've known the guy for 20 years in Rock Island and he's very liberal. As mayor, he couldn't show that because his office isn't partisan or political.
All of you anti-Schwiebert people out there need to talk to Mark. He blasts Ronald Reagan's policy that hurt the poor as articulately as anyone I've ever heard in my 65 years of politics!
You must be 85 years old. Are you john G.
I just want thank Lane for all he has done for me and my family through the year.
I just want to say to Lane. Nice job of nepotism. You are well enough to finish your term but not to run again. What a nice lasting impression of you. This is rich.
Anon above...
That's one of the most sick and disgusting comments I've read in a while.
So you think Evans is faking it?
You're nuttier than a fruitcake.
You must be a miserable person.
By the way, nepotism is when power is handed down through family.
No not faking it never was and isn't now. I feel he should have dropped out before the primary or after the general. This is a dirty trick to get his long time friend the job. Hurting the democratic ticket along the way.
You know it is true.
Anon, that makes me sick. If you had any idea of what Lane Evans is really like, you would never make that statement. I have never met anyone who has such a commitment to public service and to causes beyond himself.
That being said, my support is for Phil Hare. He has the support of labor. He knows all the players in the 17th District. He has the endorsement of Lane Evans. He is the one person that I trust to carry on Lane's legacy.
Mike Boland will get crushed. He has no money, and no ability to raise more. Mike Madigan can't ensure he gets this seat. Mike Jacobs is out. Pat Verschoore is out. Paul Mangeiri is out. John Sullivan lives in the 18th District and will get blasted as an opportunist if he runs.
Who else is there? Chuck Scholz? Porter McNeill? Give me a break. Neither of these guys, or anyone else that's left for that matter, will be able to carry this district.
Whatever happens, we need to make sure that this seat stays in the D column. If Zinga wins, I'm moving to Canada.
One notable thing in your comment is that when you ask "who else is there?", you rip on Porter McNeil, a guy who has never promoted himself for, nor sought to be included in the running for replacing Lane, yet you conspicuously forget all about two viable contenders, Mark Schwiebert and John Sullivan.
Just sayin'
Sensible...
The dates are fine. The date of my comment above yours is 4-10-06/
As you can probably figure out, it's just that they're listed date/month/year rather than the usual month/date/year.
I'll see if it's possible to change the format to the latter.
PS IHG,
If "ultra liberal" means believing that government shouldn't be in the business of dividing people against each other based on religious beliefs or lack thereof, then what the hell are you?
I'd suggest it's your ideas on this topic that are outside the mainstream and pretty radical when judged against the history of this country.
But if you think that standing up for one of the principles that make this country great, both the freedom of religion as well as the freedom FROM religion, is somehow "ultra" anything, then you're not tracking right.
Wake up and smell the constitution.
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